# Graves' Disease

Category: Conditions

Also known as: Graves disease, autoimmune hyperthyroidism

Graves' disease is not synonymous with hyperthyroidism; Ray Peat argued that it exists in three forms—hyperthyroid, euthyroid, and hypothyroid—and that the vast majority of diagnosed cases are actually hypothyroid states misidentified by elevated thyroxine alone. Over decades…

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## Synthesis

**Graves' disease** is not synonymous with hyperthyroidism; Ray Peat argued that it exists in three forms—hyperthyroid, euthyroid, and hypothyroid—and that the vast majority of diagnosed cases are actually **hypothyroid** states misidentified by elevated thyroxine alone. [Source 1, 3] Over decades of clinical observation, Peat encountered only a handful of people who met the classical definition of true hyperthyroid Graves' disease, noting that most patients with the diagnosis displayed symptoms and measurements inconsistent with a genuine excess of thyroid function. [Source 4, 5] When a transient hyperthyroid phase does occur, he described it as a *corrective process* in which the gland unloads stored colloid, often resolving spontaneously within three months to a year with concentrated, nutrient-dense foods such as liver and eggs. [Source 1, 6]

The **exophthalmos** (bulging eyes) characteristic of Graves' disease was a central focus of Peat's therapeutic approach. He reported that **pregnenolone** produced a dramatic, almost instantaneous recession of the eyes, with visible changes occurring within an hour and normalization sometimes claimed by the next day. [Source 2, 8, 10] Peat attributed this rapid effect to pregnenolone's ability to reverse the *waterlogged* state of the **gelatinous glycoprotein** material deposited behind the eyeball, a process he linked to the steroid's broader action on albumin conformation and osmotic pressure, effectively squeezing edema from tissues. [Source 7, 8, 10] He cited published studies from around 1950 in which mild doses of pregnenolone caused exophthalmic eyes to recede, and he personally witnessed the effect in several cases, including a woman whose eyeball was 50% exposed. [Source 2, 8]

Peat's mechanistic explanation centered on tissue energetics and autoimmunity as secondary to metabolic damage. He viewed the **thyroid-stimulating antibodies** not as a primary confused attack, but as a response to *stressed thyroid tissue*; restoring oxidative metabolism with thyroid hormone, nutrients, and **pregnenolone** allows the gland to heal, after which antibodies fade over six months to a year. [Source 9] Pregnenolone, which is synthesized from cholesterol under the influence of **thyroid hormone** and **vitamin A**, stabilizes mitochondrial metabolism, regulates brain chemistry to prevent excessive ACTH and cortisol, and acts as a precursor to protective steroids like progesterone and DHEA. [Source 3, 11] Peat emphasized that conservative management with diet or symptom-controlling drugs almost always leads to resolution, and he strongly opposed radioactive iodine ablation and surgery, which he considered almost never appropriate. [Source 1, 6] For symptomatic relief of a rapid heart rate during a genuinely hyperthyroid phase, he mentioned propranolol or temporary use of raw cabbage juice as a thyroid inhibitor, while stressing that the underlying condition usually corrects itself with nutritional support. [Source 6]

## People also ask

### What does Ray Peat believe causes the eye bulging in Graves' disease?

Peat attributed exophthalmos to a waterlogged gelatinous glycoprotein material deposited behind the eyeball, which he said pregnenolone could rapidly reverse by altering albumin conformation and osmotic pressure to squeeze out edema.

### Why did Peat think most Graves' disease diagnoses are actually hypothyroid?

Peat argued that the vast majority of diagnosed cases are hypothyroid states misidentified by elevated thyroxine alone, and that true hyperthyroid Graves' disease is rare, with most patients showing symptoms inconsistent with genuine excess thyroid function.

### How did Peat suggest managing a transient hyperthyroid phase in Graves' disease?

Peat described the phase as a corrective process that often resolves spontaneously within three months to a year with concentrated, nutrient-dense foods like liver and eggs, and mentioned propranolol or raw cabbage juice for temporary symptom relief if needed.

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## Cited passages

Passage numbers match the `[Source N]` markers in the synthesis above.

### Source 1 — Your Own Health And Fitness: Nutrition And The Endocrine System

Ray Peat · Interview · Feb 11, 1997 · http://l-i-g-h-t.com/files/your-own-health-and-fitness-nutrition-and-the-endocrine-system.mp4

> **Layna Berman:** Ray, what is going on when someone becomes hyperthyroid, you know Graves’ disease or the other…
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> **Ray Peat:** Well, there are three kinds of Graves' disease hyperthyroid, euthyroid and hypothyroid. So, Grave’s disease is synonymous with hyperthyroidism, and very often people are diagnosed as being hyperthyroid on the basis of having elevated thyroxine in their blood in spite of very often having many signs of low thyroid and so you can't go by the standard idea of what hyperthyroidism is. Occasionally, I see someone who is really hyperthyroid and that is generally a corrective process if they just, for example, eat some exaggeratedly nutritious foods, lots of eggs maybe some liver, and plenty of very concentrated food, usually the thyroid is unloading its excess and will correct itself in anywhere from three months to a year.
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> **Layna Berman:** That’s a very short answer for complicated questions, so I apologize for giving a short answer to something as complicated.
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> **Ray Peat:** There have been publications on different ways to treat it and the outcome of the good studies was that radiation and surgery are almost never right the conservative treatment either using diet or a drug just to control the symptoms practically always leads to resolution without the damage of surgery or radiation.

### Source 2 — Generative Energy: Restoring the Wholeness of Life

Ray Peat · Book · 1994

> In 1944 factory workers were given daily doses of pregnenolone and, on alternate weeks, a placebo. During the pregnenolone weeks. their piece-work output was significantly higher. Healthy young people who are not under stress do not feel anything from taking even a very large dose (e.g., one gram). and no changes have been detected in blood glucose, proteins, amino acids. or salts. The urine apparently contains more conjugated steroids (indicated by an increased tendency to foam) after taking a large dose of pregnenolone; I think light is the main factor normally causing changes in the conjugated steroid content of urine. The skin and the brain are important sites of steroid synthesis, and they are usually ignored by endocrinologists investigating steroid hormones. Papa and Kligman (1965) showed that adding pregnenolone or progesterone topically to skin would restore youthful properties to aged skin. I think DHEA gives similar results, and (like progesterone) is more easily absorbed than pregnenolone. Both progesterone and pregnenolone seem to improve the efficiency of blood circulation. I have seen grey-skinned depressed people turn pink and start smiling shortly after taking pregnenolone. About 1950. pregnenolone was tested on several people with exophthalmia from Graves' disease. and it was reported that their eyes quickly receded toward a more normal position in their sockets. Having read this, I mentioned it to a desperate woman with horribly bulging eyes. Her left eyeball was about 50% exposed. and the other one was less extreme, but still seriously protuberant. She took some pregnenolone as we talked, and within an hour it seemed to me that her eyes were receding. An hour after she took the pregnenolone. she said her eyes were feeling much better. I left her city early the next morning, but she telephoned me the next day and claimed that her eyes were completely normal. Without seeing her, I don't know exactly what she meant by "normal." This happened over two years ago, and I hope to visit her city soon to see whether her eyes really became, and stayed, normal. For many years it has been known that steroids, including cholesterol, have an anti-toxic effect.

### Source 3 — Ray Peat Interview by Mary Shomon (Thyroid Info)

Ray Peat · Interview · 2003 · http://l-i-g-h-t.com/files/your-own-health-and-fitness-heart-brain-cancer-and-hormo.mp4

> **Mary Shomon:** You talk about darkness and shorter days of winter as a stress. It’s known that more thyroid hormone is needed by some patients during colder weather. Are there other things you recommend patients do to “winterproof” their metabolism?
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> **Ray Peat:** Very bright incandescent lights are helpful, because light acts on, and restores, the same mitochondrial enzymes that are governed by the thyroid hormone. In squirrels, hibernation is brought on by the accumulation of unsaturated fats in the tissues, suppressing respiration and stimulating increased serotonin production. In humans, winter sickness is intensified by those same antithyroid substances, so it’s important to limit consumption of unsaturated fats and tryptophan (which is the source of serotonin). When a person is using a thyroid supplement, it’s common to need four times as much in December as in July.
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> **Mary Shomon:** You have reported that pregnenolone can be helpful for Graves’ patients with exophthalmus. Can you explain further?
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> **Ray Peat:** Graves’ disease and exophthalmos can occur with hypothyroidism or euthyroidism, as well as with hyperthyroidism. Pregnenolone regulates brain chemistry in a way that prevents excessive production of ACTH and cortisol, and it helps to stabilize mitochondrial metabolism. It apparently acts directly on a variety of tissues to reduce their retention of water. In the last several years, all of the people I have seen who had been diagnosed as “hyperthyroid” have actually been hypothyroid, and benefitted from increasing their thyroid function; some of these people had also been told that they had Graves’ disease.

### Source 4 — Ask the Herb Doctor: Economics

Ray Peat · Interview · Oct 20, 2017

> ## Caller: Graves' Disease and Thyroid
>
> **Caller (Kansas City):** I was diagnosed with Graves' disease, which is supposed to be hyperthyroid, but I've never been hyperthyroid. I had the bulging eyes and swelling in the feet. I am on thyroid hormone, but I still have issues. My antibodies are elevated.
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> **Ray Peat:** I think a more thorough metabolic study would show something other than just antibodies. You want to check steroid hormones—progesterone, cortisol, Vitamin D—and the actual level of thyroid hormones: T3, T4, and Reverse T3.
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> **Caller:** I have a new doctor, and we checked all those. Everything is normal, though testosterone was slightly low. My Vitamin D is between 60 and 80.
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> **Ray Peat:** Have you tracked your temperature and pulse rate?
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> **Caller:** My temperature is usually 96.6 to 97 in the morning and goes up to 99 by the end of the day.
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> **Ray Peat:** That is not consistent with Graves' disease. I have only seen one person who I think really had hyperthyroid Graves' disease. Many people are diagnosed with it but are actually hypothyroid.
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> **Caller:** They tell me I have Hashimoto's *and* Graves now. I take T4 in the morning, four hours apart from food.

### Source 5 — Weight Loss, Macros, Prolactin, Cancer, Cold Therapy & More, Q&A

Ray Peat · Interview · Oct 11, 2020 · https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK8qhzo4w9s

> **Jodelle Fitzwater:** Yeah, and would you say that the bigger a person is, they would probably do better on a higher dose of progesterone, such as someone who's heavier? Are their bodies bigger? Maybe they're a six-foot-tall woman versus a five-foot-two woman?
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> **Ray Peat:** Because progesterone, like vitamin D, progesterone tends to disappear in the fatty tissue. And you need it available in the bloodstream, not just saturating your fat cells.
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> **Jodelle Fitzwater:** Okay, perfect. Okay, Rubicon5 asks, what about the hyperthyroid disease, Graves? Any metabolic solution for hyperthyroid?

### Source 6 — Ray Peat Interview by Mary Shomon (Thyroid Info)

Ray Peat · Interview · 2003 · http://l-i-g-h-t.com/files/your-own-health-and-fitness-heart-brain-cancer-and-hormo.mp4

> **Mary Shomon:** Do you think the majority of people with hypothyroidism get too much or too little iodine? Should people with hypothyroidism add more iodine, like kelp, seaweeds, etc.?
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> **Ray Peat:** 30 years ago, it was found that people in the US were getting about ten times more iodine than they needed. In the mountains of Mexico and in the Andes, and in a few other remote places, iodine deficiency still exists. Kelp and other sources of excess iodine can suppress the thyroid, so they definitely shouldn’t be used to treat hypothyroidism.
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> **Mary Shomon:** What are your thoughts for Graves’ disease/hyperthyroidism patients? Should they move ahead quickly to get radioactive iodine treatment, or are there natural things they might be able to try to temporarily – or even permanently – get a remission?

### Source 7 — Osteoporosis and the Skin

Ray Peat · Newsletter · Apr 1996

> A man who was purple from emphysema changed color within a few hours, and within a few days was going to work. The bulging eyes of exophthalmic Graves' disease receded into their sockets noticeably within an hour, and were normal the next day. Simply increasing the circulation couldn't have done those things. Opposing estrogen's edema-promoting action was involved, but I couldn't imagine any mechanism that could explain such rapid movement of water from the swollen tissue into the bloodstream.
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> One of estrogen's effects is to lower the amount of albumin in the blood. Estrogen causes the liver to synthesize less albumin, partly by causing the messenger RNA to be destabilized and degraded. (Iron can have some similar effects on liver RNA.) When there isn't enough albumin in the blood, water moves from the blood into the tissues, causing edema. (Premenstrually, edema might seem to be just a nuisance, but it can eventually become a serious problem, with aging or pregnancy, for example.) Albumin binds oily substances, and its conformation seems to be opened when it binds them. Progesterone is known to adsorb strongly to proteins—it has been called a cardinal adsorbant, meaning that it can bind in ways that cause the protein's adsorptive capacity to change. I believe that progesterone and pregnenolone oppose estrogen in many ways, but the amazing speed with which they can cause major structural changes in the soft tissues convinces me that one of their first sites of action is the albumin molecule, causing its conformation to open in such a way that it is able to more strongly bind water molecules. This physical change in albumin would change the blood's osmotic/oncotic pressure, causing water to flow into capillaries. As the edema is reduced, oxygenation is more efficient, because the pathway for oxygen diffusion becomes shorter.
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> Albumin has been described as a first line of defense against toxins, since it binds them until the liver is able to degrade them chemically. Progesterone, pregnenolone, and cholesterol are known to increase the organism's resistance to a great variety of toxins. (Selye coined the name catatoxic steroids to describe steroids of this type.)

### Source 8 — Your Own Health And Fitness: Thyroid/Progesterone And Diet

Ray Peat · Interview · Nov 12, 1996 · http://www.l-i-g-h-t.com/files/your-own-health-and-fitness-thyroid-progesterone-and-diet -november-12-1996-57-mins.mp4

> **Layna Berman:** That’s right.
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> **Ray Peat:** Try the one that tends to kill you sooner.
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> **Layna Berman:** That makes sense. So thyroid and pregnenolone first. That makes sense. You had success treating Graves' disease with pregnenolone? I mean they are eradiating people's thyroids for Graves.
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> **Ray Peat:** Yeah. There is published stuff using what I consider mild doses of pregnenolone. All of their people, the eyes receded and in my few experiences the eyes just sort of were sucked back into the head. It’s such a dramatic process that you have to see what it can do to deformed arthritic joints or emphysema in which there is almost no oxygen getting through the lungs or in the state of Graves' disease in which there is a gelatinous material behind the eyeball. The valves of the heart can get the same gelatinous deposit which is, it historically is part of as low thyroid product, a glycoprotein but pregnenolone has the most dramatic almost instantaneous effect like in an hour you can see results.
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> **Layna Berman:** Okay. What I want people to do is to make sure you got a pencil and paper because I want Ray to give out his PO BOX number and his address. I'm sorry his PO Box number and if you'd like to Ray, also you’re phone number in a second because you actually make an oil which is a vitamin E oil with progesterone which is much stronger than the creams that are available on the market and I think it's a very effective way of supplementing for progesterone and it's easily gotten by ordering it from you by mail including all of your books which are self-published and available by ordering them from you by mail, but you know why you never send a protocol with your progesterone oil, so I’m getting no end to phone calls.

### Source 9 — One Radio Network: Ray Peat with Patrick Timpone — December 20, 2021

Ray Peat · Interview · Dec 20, 2021

> **Patrick Timpone:** So the autoimmune model that we've heard about, it literally does attack tissues that it shouldn't be because it's confused? Yeah.
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> **Ray Peat:** Once you've activated the B cells to produce more and more antibodies, then they're less discriminant. And so they'll start trying to remove too many cells and make the inflammation worse. But you've got to turn off the inflammation first.
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> **Patrick Timpone:** I see.
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> **Ray Peat:** Then worry about getting rid of the antibodies. Like when you're hypothyroid, your thyroid tissue is under stress. And you'll form antibodies to those stressed thyroid cells. All you have to do is supplement the needed amount of thyroid hormone and nutrients and allow the TSH to stop overdriving and stressing your thyroid gland. Gradually, over a period of six months to a year, those antithyroid antibodies will fade away.
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> **Patrick Timpone:** Fascinating. We came across a website that may be of interest. if they're accurate and it seems that they would be they're very uh um professional the whole thing it's called let's get checked and for a very small amount you can get a test kit and do a blood thing and they'll tech you can test your tsh just at home

### Source 10 — Life Supporting Substances Its Rain Making Time 2011 07 04

Ray Peat · Interview · Jul 4, 2011 · http://l-i-g-h-t.com/files/rarinmaking-time-life-supporting-substances.mp4

> **Kim Greenhouse:** So, for audiences that are listening to you, talk about it much more directly. What does it do? What does it offer?
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> **Ray Peat:** I saw it doing things like that, just immediately curing emphysema in his case, and several other very quick things, like bulgy eyeballs from so-called Grave's disease, that retracted so that a person could close her eyelids in just a couple of hours . Those changes were so fast I started trying to understand what was happening, and it definitely wasn't an ordinary hormone effect. It seems, in effect, to be causing swollen tissues, waterlogged tissues to be able to release the water (that was causing the lining of the lung to be thickened and closed up, and caused the tissue behind the eyeballs to be waterlogged and swollen). So that, just like squeezing a sponge, they could release the water that was causing the malfunction. And the slack skin that I saw in myself and a few other people, one man said when he had a heaping teaspoon of pregnenolone he woke up the next morning looking like he had had a face lift. That, I think, is the same thing. The connective tissues of the body, whether in the lungs, or the tissue around the eye socket, or the fascia that keeps the skin together, all of those tissues tend to become inert and waterlogged when they are deprived of energy and nutrients, and they are under the influence of estrogen. Sometimes they are producing it. But, they’re unable to use oxygen efficiently. The cells actually develop smooth muscle-like function. Where they had been apparently nothing but a fibroblast connective tissue cell, they now contract and return to their normal conformation.

### Source 11 — It’s Rainmaking Time — Energy-Protective Materials (June 2014)

Ray Peat · Interview · Jun 14, 2014 · http://l-i-g-h-t.com/files/rainmaking-time-energy-protective-materials.mp4

> **Ray Peat:** For example, bulgy eyes in so­‐called Graves’s disease where the eyes are protruding, I’ve seen peoples eyes recede back into a more normal position where they could close their eyelids in just an hour or so. It has its intrinsic protective effects as well as its indirect effects of blocking and reducing the production of stress hormones and then it also is a precursor for the other protective steroids DHEA and progesterone. At around 1990, the whole idea that instead of being all produced in the gonads and the adrenals, it was realized that steroids are being produced in many tissues. And the brain and skin are major steroid producing factories, and the major brain steroids happen to be pregnenolone, progesterone and some DHEA -­‐ and the minor products from those – but the basic protective steroids in the brain especially but through out the body are these three.

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